@Suricruise

Right and just from a feeling I'm getting and seeing, the 50% of people that dislike it simply dislikes it due to some of the rounds that are causing issues with player objects being too big and golden guns causing RDM and what not. So I figured; if we simply smoothed those rounds out, and updated the special rounds and create new and different rounds that did not cause harm to the TTT game-play; I'm sure those 50% of people would decrease...

What are all the special rounds? I can only think of three right now but i would like to say why i hate all of them. These are just my opinions but i would like to point out that i have 53 hours on gmod in the last two weeks according to steam, so i believe i have spent enough time on TTT to validate my opinions.

Traitors vs Detectives:
This is just team deathmatch, its fun at first but that's not what i joined TTT to play. It's also very confusing for new players. This round specifically contributes to losing new players because if they are a traitor they will believe they were RDMed and the admins are usually too lazy to actually explain what happened and instead just say something along the lines of "it wasn't RDM".

GoldenGun/SuicideGun:
Half the players kill themselves on this round, that alone ruins the game. This is probably the best of the rounds but it's still horrible.

Random Models:
Just total nonsense, when I'm a Traitor on this round i have absolutely no idea what part of the person i should be shooting and i don't think head shot's are even possible. Then if you're an innocent you have no idea who is shooting at you.

Originally Posted by n00bl3t

I feel like everyone is simply repeating what has been said before.

I think it is safe that EVERYONE agrees that Special Rounds (if kept) needs improving and updating.

Even if you want special rounds removed; your position of hating it is because some special rounds are messed up in which case it needs improving.

With this being said; I highly doubt they are going to remove the special rounds. Suri pretty much already said they won't remove it. So for those who are highly against it, it would probably be a good idea to now start giving suggestions on how to improve the special rounds so the reasons most people hate it won't happen anymore. It is obvious that the special rounds needs to be balanced so it doesn't disrupt the TTT game-play in any manner.

If things are getting repeated, then that obviously means something is wrong. Trying to tell people "their position of hating" is coming from something you believe is also wrong. Then, saying "Oh, well they're not gonna remove it" is pretty much telling everybody "Oh well, too bad, go play somewhere else". I understand that this is probably not your intention. However perception is a bitch, and your meaning will more likely than not be over looked when people see you coming off as hostile and uncaring of people's opinions. I would also like to remind everyone that's being so negative to people asking to remove the rounds, this is an open forum, and people are going to see things differently than you. Just because you think something is fun and awesome, doesn't mean everyone else likes it. And telling them they're wrong for expressing their opinion makes you look like an asshole.

Originally Posted by Kimchi

If things are getting repeated, then that obviously means something is wrong. Trying to tell people "their position of hating" is coming from something you believe is also wrong. Then, saying "Oh, well they're not gonna remove it" is pretty much telling everybody "Oh well, too bad, go play somewhere else". I understand that this is probably not your intention. However perception is a bitch, and your meaning will more likely than not be over looked when people see you coming off as hostile and uncaring of people's opinions. I would also like to remind everyone that's being so negative to people asking to remove the rounds, this is an open forum, and people are going to see things differently than you. Just because you think something is fun and awesome, doesn't mean everyone else likes it. And telling them they're wrong for expressing their opinion makes you look like an asshole.

To be honest I'm not sure what you just wrote here and weather you are saying something bad or not but I have a feeling you are getting a wrong impression from what I wrote. I'm not telling peoples opinions are wrong however I did simply state that I don't think this is going to be removed. Even Suri sees that. This isn't implying at all "Go play somewhere else".

Originally Posted by Suricruise

Special rounds is what gives our servers some spice, and I don't see them getting removed.

I am saying however that we should start giving suggestions in on how to improve this plugin rather than saying simply remove it. Everyone is already in agreement that it needs improving and I am pretty certain that with proper improvements made, people would not dislike this feature on TTT at all.


I think some of you guys also should start from the beginning and read each post and reply because there has been no hatred of any sort going on here and just simple discussions. Of course some people will disagree and agree on certain things but no one here is being an asshole...

Fucking hell people stop fighting leave your opinion and let others have theirs.

Anyway I think sense we have the motd on the loading screen and it takes people a while to join why not just explain special rounds there?

Because nobody actually reads them lol

This is locked pending a decision. Management is having a meeting this upcoming meeting and we will make a final verdict then.